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Glavni forum => Slike vaših Tomosa => Autor teme: brkin - Kolovoz 13, 2011, 16:36:07
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da pretstavim novo stecenog automatika
a35 masina(mali cilindar),alu felne,novi tip pr vila,motor je 1978 god,radjena generalna pre godinu dana,38.5l klip,12v50w paljenje,
treba srediti kocnice,signalizaciju,presvic sic i prefarbat(motor je vozila zena pa je takva i boja,)nista vise,uostalom evo slike
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jutros sam mu zamenio karike i iglicasti u maloj pesnici,ocistio karburator i slavinu,otseko standard auspuh i zavario laser za apn
posle je usledila test voznja 35km motor je odlicno podneo put i mene(120kg zive vage)
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stigo donator tj drugi matik,1979 godiste,papiri uredi gazda ziv(skoro pa komsija,lik iz susedne ulice),dellorto karburator,12v50w paljenje,
masina u ok stanju,kao i ram,dosta je budjeno na njemu,a cena 80 evropljana
donator
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posle intervencije "prodigy-team" ekipe izgleda ovako
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islo se malo u shoping po delove
zaptivaci,sajla gas,sajla pr kocnice,semerinzi,lezajevi tockova,ngk7,preslaka za sic,
dobio sam lezajeve 6203/c3/wd-tomos koper,treba da mi stigne klipnjaca iz kopra za a5/umo
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danas posle podne sam presvuko sic,skinuo ngk kapu svecice i ugradio novu originalnu,ugradio ngk7 svecicu(ipak je vrucina) i razbusio grlo karburatora na 12.5(pre razbusivanja rupa je bila 10x11),sad motor vec lici na nesto a i lepse ide
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skinuo ngk kapu svecice i ugradio novu originalnu,ugradio ngk7 svecicu(ipak je vrucina)
super je sve ajde mi molim te objasni ovo šta si napisao jer se i meni malo povišeno grije......
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nisam nesto strucan,ali pokusat cu ti objasniti
svecica pored uloge da prenese varnicu u komoru za sagorevanje ima i ulogu da toplotu iz komore koliko je moguce prenese na glavu cilindra tj sistem hladjenja,elektroda na svecici ima najvecu temperaturu u celom sklopu motora sa elektrode se toplota prenosi na izolator tj keramicki deo svecice pa sa keramike na glavu svecice i onda na glavu motora,keramicki deo svecice igra glavnu ulogu u prenosu toplote,sto je keramicki deo veci(niza toplotna vrednost)to je i prenos toplote manji a kad je keramicki deo manji(visa toplotna vrednost) tad svecica moze da brze prenese temperaturu na glavu svecice/glavu motora
posto je leto i temperature 30+ hladjenje motora je "smanjeno" tj motor se slabije hladi tako da treba staviti svecicu koja ima visu toplotnu vrednost tj da moze da prenese vise toplote sa njenog vrha(ako se vrh svecice zagrije na 800-850 stepeni dolazi do samozapaljivanja smese u nepozeljom trenutku sto prouzrokuje kvarove) na glavu motora,
nadam se da si skonto
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znači ja moram uzet veću toplinsku vrijednost da bi se bolje hladio???????????? znaći to je 7 a na matika inače ide 6 .......da uzmem oba dvije pa da probam
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da,ngk 7 je ekvivalent super bosne 80
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danas kupljeno lanac,opruge prednji vila,kutija ispod sica,farba ppg-akril 2.5 dl
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moram nešto d ajavim hupio sam ngk BR7HS svječicu koja je kao bila duplikat super bosne i vozio sam se no nekako mi je motor slab kad stavim super bosnu poludi u čemu je problem...zazor je na obje 0.8 :misli: :misli: :misli:
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pa nije ista svjecica...ja dok nisam stavio ngk ali b7hs , moto je isto tromo radio...preporodio se s drugom svjecicom...
inace brkin , svaka cast s projektom!
samo mi reci ta plastika ispod sica,jel iz male privrede ili original,cijena,kvaliteta,si zadovoljan ?
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krile-ja ti nisam naveo b7hs a ne br7hs,zazor na 0.5-0.6
kaki-hvala,plastika je originalna,7e je cena,prezadivoljan sam, ja gledan da kupujem samo org delove jesu skuplji ali vrede
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moram nešto d ajavim hupio sam ngk BR7HS svječicu koja je kao bila duplikat super bosne i vozio sam se no nekako mi je motor slab kad stavim super bosnu poludi u čemu je problem...zazor je na obje 0.8 :misli: :misli: :misli:
Svječka NGK sa oznakom BR ima u sebi ugrađeni otpornik te je namjenjena za novije motore sa cdi paljenjima, dok ona na klasičnim paljenima nema efekta, već zapravo smanjuje jačinu iskre te time i samu snagu motora. Za klasična paljenja i za sve Tomose (sa platinskim ili elktronskim paljenjima) je obična NGK svječica sa oznakom B (toplinska vrijednost) HS.
APN, 14, VB, UMO - B6HS (Bosna F65)
Automatik A3/A35 - B7HS (Bosna F80) (NGK katalog -> http://www.ngkeurope.com/en/product-finder/produktfinder/MOTORRAEDER/ZUENDKERZEN/TOMOS/TOMOS/B7HS/13173/ (http://www.ngkeurope.com/en/product-finder/produktfinder/MOTORRAEDER/ZUENDKERZEN/TOMOS/TOMOS/B7HS/13173/) )
BT, 15, CTX, E90 - B8HS (Bosna F100)
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ja mogu samo potvrdit da na mom matiku postoji ogromna razlika izmedju B7HS i F80 , puno bolje radi sa NGK-om , a bosna rikne nakon tjedan dana...znaci nije isto...
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nije ti rečeno da je isto nego da je ista toplotna vrijednost :palacgore:
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ja mogu samo potvrdit da na mom matiku postoji ogromna razlika izmedju B7HS i F80 , puno bolje radi sa NGK-om , a bosna rikne nakon tjedan dana...znaci nije isto...
nije istina to što ti rikne svječica je do prebogate smjese spore vožnje ili neispravnog paljenja kako meni traja super bosna po pola godine i više ??????? koliko ti god mislio da je bosna loša najbolja je za tomose tipa matik i apen dosta je kvalitetna i to sto si rekao da više izdrži i to nije točno prije če riknut ona nego bosna jer kad nju zalije benzin odma crkne jer je preosjetljiva i najbolja se doasad pokazal japanska denso no njena je cjena 130 kn pa ti kupuj a ngk ovdje kod mene 20 pa računaj bosna skoro više košta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ngk br7hs/b7hs je ekvivalenta super bosni f-80,nije 100% isto postoje razlike,
super bosnu izbegavam u sirokom luku kad je zivo smece od svecice radi nekoliko dana crkne,denso takodje 0 bodova(od 100 svecica ubode se nekoliko dobri a ovo je skart),kopiraju i ngk pa je situacija ista,
imam lika koji mi nabavlja orginal ngk od uvoznika iz beograda,ja sam prezadovoljan a i niko mi se nije zalio kome sam ugradio,
u srb je ngk 3e,super bosna 1.5-2e,ima i stara bosanska "ako neznas sta je dobro,kupi ono sto je skupo"
svako ima svoje misljenje i nek se ravna po njemu,ili je upravu ili gresi trece nema,
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ja neznam oko čega vi raite problema, meni će bilokoji motor u garaži zapalit i vozit brz greške na bilokoju svjećicu, vozio sam na bosnu, ngk, bosch, bosnu od motorke, championku i još puno gluposti i nikad problema, tako da se ostavite gluposti, poštelajte karb i paljenje i sve će bit ok!
inače motori su mi se najbolje pokazali sa ngk svjećicama :palacgore:
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ma palit ce on i it sa svakom ali koliko to neznamo,sve zavisi kakva je original ili fals
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pa šta ja znam kupia san kolegi i meni ngk njemu 8 meni sedmicu i baš smo o tome komentirali moja kutija ima tamniju boju i na njoj piše made in france a na koleginoj made in japan i šta tu mislit???????????????????????????????????? :palacdolje: :palacdolje: :palacdolje: :palacdolje: :palacdolje: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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poceo sam sa radovima,barbikan je rastuten do zadnjeg srafa,evo nesto malo slika
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produbio sam leziste na bloku sa 10 na 12mm
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alat scim sam produbio-frezer za ventile-
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sa AtoZz-om sam nest djirao za a5 cilindar
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bice jos slika sutra
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odustao sam od crvene kupio sam belu boju,drugar mi je poklonio nalepnice.semeringe,zaptivace(semeringe i zaptivace sto sam spremio jbg potrosio na bratov matik),
sklopio sam masinu i malo smirglo ostale delove,mislio sam da cu stic ofarbat ali to cu sutra
evo neke slike
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ofarbano,sklopnjeno
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bice jos slika kad izadje na put
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odlično,evo baš ovakvog,urednog,automatika volin vidit :palacgore:
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finjak! Lijepo je viditi bijelog :palacgore:
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svaka cast , lijepo izgleda :palacgore:
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ja na automatiku iman denso svicicu i moran je minjat svaki tjedan...to nista ne vridi.zadnji put san kupia 3 denso svicice pa sve tri su gotove :palacdolje:
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Osto sam bez teksta :slinavac: :slinavac: :palacgore:
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hvala momci,
u pripremi je a35 cilindar.dellorto 14/14,12/80 paljenje od targe ali o tom kad se bude montiralo
imam jos slika kako se sastavljo(editovat cu post kad prebacim slike sa tel)
tomosaki-ja denso izbegavam u sirokom luku,samo ngk dolazi u obzir(do sad me nisu izneverile)
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nema ngk ode u šibeniku kupit :palacdolje: ....
MOTOR TI JE VRHUNSKI
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hvala
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automatic prodan tj menjan za
-apn6 zapusten totalno,zaribala radilica,papiri uredni,
-automatik a3 buretas stanje groblje,papiri uredni,
-60e
-nesto delova od pente
slike sutra
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lijepo je sreden..lijepo ofarban...